Taggart Transdimensional Film Production Department

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Sweet... nice video Max! :D And Motorhead... nice choice. Lemmy was better when he was in Hawkwind, though... 8)
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Very nice stuff Max, keep it coming :D.



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Nice touch with the J.J. Cale, awesome movies too.
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During the making of the latest film, we came across a very disturbing catalogue of Stain underwear http://www.manties.net/
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Max... you want to be careful... someone might be monitoring your internet usage... :lol:

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Max Delorian's TTI movies made during our days in C4-alliance are still available at http://tti.naut.org/~maxd/Movies/
As you all can see if you watch the movies, they were recorded quite some time ago.
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Nice, I'll check them out tonight :) Thanks Petter
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Here is TTI's advert that was shown on EVETV during the 4th Alliance Tournament: http://eve-files.com/dl/124045
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Here's my youtube video on my Rorqual:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZMQDfsBRY
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Oleksandr wrote:Here's my youtube video on my Rorqual:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZMQDfsBRY
:shock:
HUGE.
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Not bad. But seriously, we do need to start punching harder in this category. Without good quality propaganda, we've got no hope of attracting the numbers we need.

Check out this this video from the Red Swarm Federation. Right down to the quotes fron Ninteen Eighty Four it's naked evil, but they make it look awesome.

We need stuff out there with comparable production values.
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Ginuad Amarasen wrote:Not bad. But seriously, we do need to start punching harder in this category. Without good quality propaganda, we've got no hope of attracting the numbers we need.

Check out this this video from the Red Swarm Federation. Right down to the quotes fron Ninteen Eighty Four it's naked evil, but they make it look awesome.

We need stuff out there with comparable production values.
:D DO IT!!
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I'm going to need help with this. I can help with the music side, most definitely. I have a massive music collection which allows me to soundtrack pretty much everything perfectly. I can also write all the slogans you'll ever need and more (I've worked as a copywriter before).

However, I'm useless at the visuals.

Firstly, I play this game on an office PC. That might change later on in the year but that'll probably be when Spore comes out and frankly I'm going to be putting a LONG-ASS SKILL to train when that happens. (Don't count on me being the only one. I'm willing to bet there's a big overlap between people who play EVE and people who are excited about Spore)

Videos with a crap framerate aren't going to impress anyone, a solid 30FPS during epic cap ship battles is essential for making a 'cream your pants' recruitment video or a 'soil their pants' propaganda video. I can't deliver that, thanks to my crappy PC.

Also, I have what is quite possibly the most bland sense of visual aesthetics known to man. I think 1980s Volvos are nice to look at. Do NOT put me in charge of how something looks unless you want it to look aggressively boring.

However, there are a few problems which I think are going to need to be sorted out.

#1: We can barely mount a garden variety PVP op right now. We need to kick ass before we get footage of ourselves kicking ass.

#2: We don't have a cap fleet. Making videos about how badass we are before we have a decent cap fleet is just asking for someone to come kick our ass. Prototypes not meant for public consumption are fine, but we sure don't want to press release them.

#3: Alternatively, we find a way to make business in EVE look awesome. Right now I can't think of how that would be possible but if someone's got a good idea, I'd love to roll with it.

#4: We need a cameraman, editor and special effects guy. These could all be the one person, but who can do these things?

#5: What's our message? If we just put me in charge of it, Olek is probably going to find it unpleasantly non-Oist.
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I guess we'll get around to it.

I've never done any video editing or screen capturing myself, but we really need things to film first. Right now all I could film is the Dyth mining op...

I don't think there is any rush yet for that much publicity for us, or showing off how bad ass we are.

The cap fleet is coming, don't worry about that! Dyth is on path for his own Rork and we are both going for Dreadnaughts and the ability to produce our own. :shock: :twisted:
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Hello all,

I'm new to the corp and still somewhat of a noob in Eve, but I think I can help.

I went to a top art school in Los Angeles, so I have some experience putting videos together. I can't do the editing. However, since I am familiar with the production process, I can be the producer or at least help producing.

Since I don't have a lot of experience in Eve or the corp, it will be difficult for me to come up with ideas for vids that will meet our needs. But that is what brainstorming sessions are for. Once we have ideas, I can think of shots and help refine the editing.

I suggest that we find out who can do good screen captures. I can direct them on how to improve the shots. Once we have a group of camera operators, we can begin to collect stock footage. PvP training would be good for this, because we would have a group of people together, and with that we could stage scenes. This way you can have camera operators recording with clear screens, and no worries of destruction. Also, it would serve as training film for squad leaders to find strategy errors, and practice for camera men. The staging is key to really good videos. If you look at professional work you will notice that they have people do things in ways that don't make sense. This is because it looks great, and that is all that matters. For instance, it might not make sense (as far as efficiency is concerned) to have a bunch of miners clustered tightly together firing mining lasers in all directions, but I bet it would look impressive on video. The key with camera footage though is to have as much of it as possible from as many directions as possible.

Olek can capture and I am going to check to see if I can get a good capture on my desktop. That will make two. Who else can capture? Olek, what software are you using to capture?

Also, is there anyone in corp that has a deep manly voice for voiceover work? We also need an editor. Ginuad can take care of music and copy.

I guess the next question is, "What should our first vid be about". Do we want to market industrial capabilities? Should it be a recruitment video? What does everyone else think?

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Ginuad Amarasen wrote:#1: We can barely mount a garden variety PVP op right now. We need to kick ass before we get footage of ourselves kicking ass.

#2: We don't have a cap fleet. Making videos about how badass we are before we have a decent cap fleet is just asking for someone to come kick our ass. Prototypes not meant for public consumption are fine, but we sure don't want to press release them.
We're not a predominantly PvP corp so I don't think we should have a predominatly PvP video
Ginuad Amarasen wrote:#3: Alternatively, we find a way to make business in EVE look awesome. Right now I can't think of how that would be possible but if someone's got a good idea, I'd love to roll with it.
Now your talking. How about some video's of high sec mining op with the Hulks and Barges? Video's of somebody installing manufacturing or research runs? (eg Raaz's Science and Technology screen showing 8 manufacturing jobs (ideally BSs but that probably isn't possible) and 6 BPO research jobs). Shots that show somebody (Raaz/Tolthar?) opening a can that has several hundred BPOs in it etc etc. Do we have a POS up anywhere? Video of somebody entering a market order to buy 300 Million Tritanium or something similair.
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The trouble is, how do we make a video like that without it coming across as "Here are our goodies, please come take them, Mr Red Swarm Federation".

Alternatively, we can go for the 'Manifesto Video' approach, similar to the ones being used by Anonymous in their online propaganda war against the Church of Scientology. The good thing about manifesto videos is they're much easier to produce, all you need is someone to write good propaganda and provide a good atmosphere and I'm quite confident I can do both extremely well. Then you just need a compelling background image (which I'm sure Emizzon can provide) and a few cool effects and atmospheric music.

I've absolutely no problem with providing the voice overs. I'm a confident public speaker, I've presented radio shows and voiced a commercial before. Some people might find my Australian accent a bit funny, but stuff 'em, we're not all yanks! :roll:
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Making a video showing how rich we are and publicizing it is a great way to get wardecced by about 50 hisec pvp corps :P
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Another possibility is an idea I've been knocking around for some time but previously couldn't bring myself to moot on this board.

A parody of the Bud Light 'Real American Heroes' ads - Real EVE Heroes. Comedy could be just as good for attracting people as the propaganda vids other alliances are using.

Basically, they take the piss out of behaviours that annoy us - Suicide ganking, piracy, gate camping and imposing stupid and arbitrary taxes. There's a possibility to fairly easily video these things and I can already do most of the audio side. I can do a passable impression of Captain Keyes for the main voice-over and I know how to sing so I can do the guy who sings things in the background (although I have a deeper register, so it'll be a few notes lower than the guy on the ad).

Of course, if someone can find a MIDI of the cheesy 80s music in the ad, that would be fantastic. I can run that through my Yamaha and get a decently authentic sounding BGM.
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I think the Bud Light spoof is in the right direction. I think that any sort of prop/ad vids should not be completely literal were you show a research screen. Also, having many 15-30 sec spots are going to serve corp purposes better than 2min spots. Just aim to keep the Taggart name in the public sphere. All it needs to be is something like a really well composed shot of a station, maybe with some pan or zoom, and a stock photo of lab equipment with a pan across it. Finish with a logo fading in over a sun and there you go.

You could also do a spaceballs/starwars spoof with the Rorqual advertising mining capabilities, then cut to the logo.

Simple stuff like that can be kept up for a long time, and it is pretty easy to do. Sure, it isn't supercool, but there is a reason why ads on tv are so formulaic.
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Remind me about it in mid-april (around spring break). This seems like a fun project.
I have a few tools laying around that are just right for this.
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