CCP's DUST-514

[Zarkary]

http://www.massively.com/2009/08/18/ccp ... -dust-514/

Looks like it's supposed to tie directly into EVE in real time. Hopefully it's advanced and difficult enough to attract the same demographic EVE does and isn't some simple FPS that will put 0.0 sov partially in the hands of whiny kids. If it turns out well I may just buy a console.

[Raaz Satik]

So the day to day EVE universe will be majorly effected by a different non-EVE CCP game?

I'm not a person that shouts the game will die everytime the developers change something I don't like, but I have to wonder whether CCP know what they are doing here. It won't personnally effect me but I could see it significantly changing the game play of many of the major alliances and then you have to wonder what effect that will have on the game.

[Jaober]

I think that this will certainly play a part in changing the way EVE as we know it is played for the major aliances ... but I don't think that is nessicarily a bad thing.

Ideally if this ties into the EVE economy in a two way method I think that it could certainly add a depth to both games that no game or series of games has currently matched. That is to say if ... in addition to control points, planets themselves produce certain raw materials needed for production and the gear and equipment needed by the DUST Merc companies was manufactured by the EVE economy ... tying both groups into a we need them/they need us market.

Keep in mind that many of the major alliances already have a presence in multiple games as it is ... many of them already have branches in FPS and RTS (as well as other MMO) game communities as it stands, for many of them this would be a logical progression of the game ... a way to re-consolidate so to speak.

[Sellmak]

I think that this will certainly play a part in changing the way EVE as we know it is played for the major aliances ... but I don't think that is nessicarily a bad thing.

Ideally if this ties into the EVE economy in a two way method I think that it could certainly add a depth to both games that no game or series of games has currently matched. That is to say if ... in addition to control points, planets themselves produce certain raw materials needed for production and the gear and equipment needed by the DUST Merc companies was manufactured by the EVE economy ... tying both groups into a we need them/they need us market.

Keep in mind that many of the major alliances already have a presence in multiple games as it is ... many of them already have branches in FPS and RTS (as well as other MMO) game communities as it stands, for many of them this would be a logical progression of the game ... a way to re-consolidate so to speak.

Yeah... alliances will migrate. Expect Goons in a console near you....

I hope it comes out on 360.

[Darius Brinn]

I will be getting it for PS3. The EVE universe is (or can be) very, very rich lore-wise and it's a welcome addition.

I don't think it will affect EVE online that much. It's just bait for current users to think about purchasing it. After all, it's much more thrilling if it's connected to the real game.

No band of zerging teens coming from Counterstrike will EVER define the shape of the EVE world. CCP won't kill their creature, I am sure.

[Zarkary]

"No band of zerging teens coming from Counterstrike will EVER define the shape of the EVE world. CCP won't kill their creature, I am sure."

I think and sincerely hope you're right. Chances are that even if that begins to happen, hoards of EVE users will sign up for DUST and whip their asses.

[musashi]

I wonder if the established culture of Eve will influence how the console game launches and evolves. In the initial stages the Eve alliances will have the head count and coordination. I could see the newb console players becoming influenced into existing Eve politics.

[Jaober]

I wonder if the established culture of Eve will influence how the console game launches and evolves. In the initial stages the Eve alliances will have the head count and coordination. I could see the newb console players becoming influenced into existing Eve politics.

This is fairly much what I expect ... the major alliances that already exsist will come in mass to DUST and will likely hold the early power. As such, new comers to the EVE/DUST universe will be pulled into that exsisting political structure much as they are now if they choose to go that route in EVE.

[Darius Brinn]

Unfortunately, I don't think EVE will have a serious impact on Dust, either. In fact, it's much more likely that EVE users get to enjoy Dust ocassionally than the other way round.

Dust will be marketed towards other audiences. Console players, probable younger people with other urges. Can you imagine telling a 17 year old Madden & Call of Duty player to spin ships or camp a gate because of politics?

EVE players will be able to "buy" mercenary services, but these will be able to operate without such prompting actions (or else it will be the most boring FPS ever). And when this happens (Dust people doing their thing on their own), logic implies that their actions will NOT affect the current state of affairs within EVE.

It's just a fancy way to enrich the EVE Universe and try to bring us to invest in a product that couldn't be more different from the thing we love and pay for. But it will NOT cripple the thing we love and pay for, I am positive.

Nobody will be able to conquer or mantain sov by playing a FPS or hiring others to do it.

[Raaz Satik]

This is fairly much what I expect ... the major alliances that already exsist will come in mass to DUST and will likely hold the early power. As such, new comers to the EVE/DUST universe will be pulled into that exsisting political structure much as they are now if they choose to go that route in EVE.

My fear. Then huge parts of the game become unobtainable by anybody other than large multi-game alliances. As somebody else said earler, Goons coming to system near you soon!

[Jaober]

This is fairly much what I expect ... the major alliances that already exsist will come in mass to DUST and will likely hold the early power. As such, new comers to the EVE/DUST universe will be pulled into that exsisting political structure much as they are now if they choose to go that route in EVE.

My fear. Then huge parts of the game become unobtainable by anybody other than large multi-game alliances. As somebody else said earler, Goons coming to system near you soon!

I doubt in the end that it will be any worse than it is currently in EVE as it stands ... and I tend to agree with Darius in that the impact that the two games have on each other will, likely, in the end be rather minimal. Though I do believe that the politics of EVE will likely shape the events on DUST more than the events in DUST will effect the status on EVE.