Arya Intro Extravaganza
- Aryana Orinogu
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Arya Intro Extravaganza
Basic Info:
EVE character - Aryana Orinogu
Your preferred nick/name - Arya; Sara, if you're naughty.
TTI Division (or major occupation if unsure) - Mining is what makes me happy. Building with what I've mined makes me happier. Doing it at my own station bearing the Orinogu name would be even better. Watching as a fleet of ships I've built and mined myself flew off to hold a system? Priceless.
Email Address - ariaorinogu@hotmail.com
Your (approximate) age - 20
Timezone in the world - PDT
Extended Info:
1) What are your unique characteristics that set you apart from most people? (your views, achievements, etc):
I give a damn. I try and make a habit of thinking before I speak. I think.
But seriously:
I think I've made just about every single newbie mistake a person can make. I've shoved millions of ISK down the throats of my lessers and apparently actually shunned them from the game in the process. (Quite the startling revelation to my 'eventually Communist' Corporate Model.) And then I came across Petyr in EBANK Chat and had the nicest conversation I've had in years (he found it refreshing to talk to a Christian who didn't leap out of her head the moment you question her beliefs; I found it refreshing to find an intelligent Objectivist who didn't keep his hand in his pants.) When it comes to achievements in EVE, I suppose I could say "I have enough balls to take a newbie frigate to 'go see the goons'" and that I've done quite a bit of 0.0 exploring that always ended with me mining 1 velator full of crimson arkonor just to say I'd done it. Awful big rats at the galactic wall, oh my. I've spent the entirety of my time in the game studying the hell out of it, and I'm dying to fully master it. I want stations and sovereignty, I want to build Titans and watch as I fuel distant war engines and can control the political makeup of the galaxy simply by refusing to sell to particular alliances. I expect that the best case scenario would some day have me leaving Taggart, having mastered what I am here to learn, and refounding Cordesca, with the intent to gain my own political control in EVE.
I call myself Christian, but before you stone me, realize that I'm here to learn. I'm more than willing to talk about the nature of my beliefs (though I do not claim to be any sort of master, especially contending with the brilliance I've already encountered) which alone sets me apart from all but one other Christian I've ever met. I also don't feel even the least bit threatened by the knowledge that all of you think me a fool for my belief. In fact, I welcome your compassionate arguements and as long as you can be nice I think you'll find a relatively pleasant conversation with me. And don't think I'm saying that without experimenting. I've had a conversation or two with you, and you've cracked some good-natured jokes but you've been kind and you seem to have enjoyed my company.
Except George. He's mean. But that means he likes me.
2) Why are you playing EVE?
I think it's a rather cute story, actually. A girlfriend of mine and I had been playing Age of Empires II for a time, and it had finally gotten to the point where I'd maximized the resource gathering potential and found the right balance of villagers to military units that my war machine was not merely a massive 'endgame charge' but in fact several endgame waves numbering in the eventual thousands that mutilated, after a time, my opponent's resource supplies and troops. But those victories were shallow, as the moment I won, it was all over. I expressed this to her, and we moved to Age of Empires III when it came out. For a time that was amazing fun, all kinds of new things to learn and new combat strategies, troops were too expensive for my earlier tactic but a defensive tactic worked nicely. This was also rather fun for me because in order to build a decent defense you actually get to build what looks like a colonial-age colony! But of course, when the fighting was all over...so was the colony. Expressing my distaste again, we moved on to Sid Meier's Civilization IV, with all the available expansions. I found this much more to my liking, and eventually was not only building societies but actually watching them have culture and do things and watching exemplary people rise and fall and it was great, but eventually, the fighting stopped and I was the winner. And my society wiped from the Earth, again! A mod came with the newest expansion that allowed you to take it 'bigger' than Earth, in fact with a bit of make-believe, you could argue that the biggest society I ever had actually proceeded to go beyond the earth! A few games of that later and my girlfriend mentioned EVE. She is a SomethingAwful goon, and they frequently advertise EVE on their forums looking for new recruits. I played the two week trial. I experienced Total Perspective Vortex when I hit the map key. I mined Veldspar. I mined better than Veldpsar. I took a newbie ship into the heart of Goon territory and left a bookmark in a jetcan claiming that I had "licked ur stuffz" I watched as Goons and Foundation fought for N-DQOD. And that was awesome.
To me, EVE represents the ultimate in escapist gaming. It has a long way to go before it fully realizes its potential - sit me down in a private chat and I'll tell you some of my ideas - but compare it to its competitors. There is no competition. And now that I have finally found it - five years too late in my opinion - I'm going to master it. I want my in-character questions about the Jovians answered. I want my name known. I want power. In the real world I am happy to sit and watch while power-hungry mongrels slay eachother arguing over desert (or dessert!)
3) Why are you applying to Taggart?
Isn't the only correct answer to this question, "to make ISK?" Or perhaps like it is in my case, "to learn how to make ISK?" or perhaps some more flavor is necessary, "to learn how to make so much ISK that I can have starbases and outposts all to myself and my interests, so that I can build capital fleets, so that I can have so much ISK that I can sponsor my own damn battleship tournaments because I like seeing good pilots blow eachother up in good-natured contest?" Or perhaps the real answer is something more sinister: Maybe I'm just tired of playing with idiots. Or, rephrased: Maybe I think its time I played with smart people.
Also George made me.
PS: I like to make jokes
EVE character - Aryana Orinogu
Your preferred nick/name - Arya; Sara, if you're naughty.
TTI Division (or major occupation if unsure) - Mining is what makes me happy. Building with what I've mined makes me happier. Doing it at my own station bearing the Orinogu name would be even better. Watching as a fleet of ships I've built and mined myself flew off to hold a system? Priceless.
Email Address - ariaorinogu@hotmail.com
Your (approximate) age - 20
Timezone in the world - PDT
Extended Info:
1) What are your unique characteristics that set you apart from most people? (your views, achievements, etc):
I give a damn. I try and make a habit of thinking before I speak. I think.
But seriously:
I think I've made just about every single newbie mistake a person can make. I've shoved millions of ISK down the throats of my lessers and apparently actually shunned them from the game in the process. (Quite the startling revelation to my 'eventually Communist' Corporate Model.) And then I came across Petyr in EBANK Chat and had the nicest conversation I've had in years (he found it refreshing to talk to a Christian who didn't leap out of her head the moment you question her beliefs; I found it refreshing to find an intelligent Objectivist who didn't keep his hand in his pants.) When it comes to achievements in EVE, I suppose I could say "I have enough balls to take a newbie frigate to 'go see the goons'" and that I've done quite a bit of 0.0 exploring that always ended with me mining 1 velator full of crimson arkonor just to say I'd done it. Awful big rats at the galactic wall, oh my. I've spent the entirety of my time in the game studying the hell out of it, and I'm dying to fully master it. I want stations and sovereignty, I want to build Titans and watch as I fuel distant war engines and can control the political makeup of the galaxy simply by refusing to sell to particular alliances. I expect that the best case scenario would some day have me leaving Taggart, having mastered what I am here to learn, and refounding Cordesca, with the intent to gain my own political control in EVE.
I call myself Christian, but before you stone me, realize that I'm here to learn. I'm more than willing to talk about the nature of my beliefs (though I do not claim to be any sort of master, especially contending with the brilliance I've already encountered) which alone sets me apart from all but one other Christian I've ever met. I also don't feel even the least bit threatened by the knowledge that all of you think me a fool for my belief. In fact, I welcome your compassionate arguements and as long as you can be nice I think you'll find a relatively pleasant conversation with me. And don't think I'm saying that without experimenting. I've had a conversation or two with you, and you've cracked some good-natured jokes but you've been kind and you seem to have enjoyed my company.
Except George. He's mean. But that means he likes me.
2) Why are you playing EVE?
I think it's a rather cute story, actually. A girlfriend of mine and I had been playing Age of Empires II for a time, and it had finally gotten to the point where I'd maximized the resource gathering potential and found the right balance of villagers to military units that my war machine was not merely a massive 'endgame charge' but in fact several endgame waves numbering in the eventual thousands that mutilated, after a time, my opponent's resource supplies and troops. But those victories were shallow, as the moment I won, it was all over. I expressed this to her, and we moved to Age of Empires III when it came out. For a time that was amazing fun, all kinds of new things to learn and new combat strategies, troops were too expensive for my earlier tactic but a defensive tactic worked nicely. This was also rather fun for me because in order to build a decent defense you actually get to build what looks like a colonial-age colony! But of course, when the fighting was all over...so was the colony. Expressing my distaste again, we moved on to Sid Meier's Civilization IV, with all the available expansions. I found this much more to my liking, and eventually was not only building societies but actually watching them have culture and do things and watching exemplary people rise and fall and it was great, but eventually, the fighting stopped and I was the winner. And my society wiped from the Earth, again! A mod came with the newest expansion that allowed you to take it 'bigger' than Earth, in fact with a bit of make-believe, you could argue that the biggest society I ever had actually proceeded to go beyond the earth! A few games of that later and my girlfriend mentioned EVE. She is a SomethingAwful goon, and they frequently advertise EVE on their forums looking for new recruits. I played the two week trial. I experienced Total Perspective Vortex when I hit the map key. I mined Veldspar. I mined better than Veldpsar. I took a newbie ship into the heart of Goon territory and left a bookmark in a jetcan claiming that I had "licked ur stuffz" I watched as Goons and Foundation fought for N-DQOD. And that was awesome.
To me, EVE represents the ultimate in escapist gaming. It has a long way to go before it fully realizes its potential - sit me down in a private chat and I'll tell you some of my ideas - but compare it to its competitors. There is no competition. And now that I have finally found it - five years too late in my opinion - I'm going to master it. I want my in-character questions about the Jovians answered. I want my name known. I want power. In the real world I am happy to sit and watch while power-hungry mongrels slay eachother arguing over desert (or dessert!)
3) Why are you applying to Taggart?
Isn't the only correct answer to this question, "to make ISK?" Or perhaps like it is in my case, "to learn how to make ISK?" or perhaps some more flavor is necessary, "to learn how to make so much ISK that I can have starbases and outposts all to myself and my interests, so that I can build capital fleets, so that I can have so much ISK that I can sponsor my own damn battleship tournaments because I like seeing good pilots blow eachother up in good-natured contest?" Or perhaps the real answer is something more sinister: Maybe I'm just tired of playing with idiots. Or, rephrased: Maybe I think its time I played with smart people.
Also George made me.
PS: I like to make jokes
- Petyr Baelich
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Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
Great intro, ary... although I've said that in the recent past and been wrong I don't believe I am this time.
- Tolthar Lockbar
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Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
Why do you want political power? The only reason I'd want it is to create a place where rational people can be rational. I want to own an outpost in this rational place. And Oleks' goal is to make this rational piece of space. It seems like you just want to control people...
Also, the correct answer is not "to make isk". ISK is just value saved up, to be spent later. Its actually bad to hold on to isk with all the inflation (though not so bad anymore). My goal is to help build a capitalist society, much like I'd like to live in in real life. Also, as a side effect, spread the good word of capitalism. ISK is just a means to this end. ISK is pointless without something to put it towards--never an end in itself.
/whip
Tolmart
Also, the correct answer is not "to make isk". ISK is just value saved up, to be spent later. Its actually bad to hold on to isk with all the inflation (though not so bad anymore). My goal is to help build a capitalist society, much like I'd like to live in in real life. Also, as a side effect, spread the good word of capitalism. ISK is just a means to this end. ISK is pointless without something to put it towards--never an end in itself.
/whip
Tolmart
If Tolmart doesn't have it in stock, you get a free shuttle!
(Must be something with a BPO cost of less than 20 mil. One shuttle a day and per an item.)
Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
/me picks up a stone and eyes Aryana distrustfullyI call myself Christian, but before you stone me,
A christian AND a goon?
/me drops the stone and runs off in fear
Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
Greetings, Aryana. I have sent you the full application via email. Enjoy.
Yeah, our corporation has mostly people who are closer to Objectivism in their ideas, but we actually have some religious (or who claim to be so, at least) people as well despite that. While those who are Objectivist definitely tell you that religion is immoral and I will add that it's the greatest enemy to USA right now, so long as we can use reason to talk to you, everything will be good.
Welcome to forums.
Yeah, our corporation has mostly people who are closer to Objectivism in their ideas, but we actually have some religious (or who claim to be so, at least) people as well despite that. While those who are Objectivist definitely tell you that religion is immoral and I will add that it's the greatest enemy to USA right now, so long as we can use reason to talk to you, everything will be good.
Welcome to forums.
Ex-CEO of Taggart Transdimensional
"Objectivism is not only true, it is great! Why? Because of the volitional work a mind must have performed to reach for the first time so exalted a level of truth—and because of all the glorious effects such knowledge will have on man’s life, all the possibilities of action it opens up for the future." -- Leonard Peikoff
"Objectivism is not only true, it is great! Why? Because of the volitional work a mind must have performed to reach for the first time so exalted a level of truth—and because of all the glorious effects such knowledge will have on man’s life, all the possibilities of action it opens up for the future." -- Leonard Peikoff
- Aryana Orinogu
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Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
Confirming receipt and partial completion of questionaire! What a lovely surprise to wake up to. An hour or so into it and I've just got to get back to bed, but I wanted to respond.
Petyr: No matter what Taggart becomes for me, I owe it all to you and that first great conversation of ours. I haven't undocked in two whole days because the channel is just so damn interesting. So thank you; and thank you also for your support, here.
Tolthy: No real interest in what people do with their own damn time or money or energy! It's the space (and the resources) I want access to, for me and mine. And there's something deeply satisfying to me about chucking a flag into a moon, calling out ownership, and defending the damn thing and your stations until the game actually recognizes you as the owner of it. I'm not sure if I even fully understand the implications or the effort required to pull this all off, especially over any length of time, but it is my long-term goal.
Kushan: I'm not a goon! not a goon not a goon not a goon. I don't even get their memes. I'd tell you where I like to hang out on the internet for "lulz," but the first rule is I'm not supposed to talk about it; and the second rule is I'm not supposed to talk about it. But anyway: I like to take shuttles on suicides and go harrass the goons - well, I've done it twice. But they're never really nice to me when I do it, which is kind of a bummer. Don't be scared of me, I'm mostly harmless.
Oleksandr: I'm totally new to Objectivism. I've only ever heard lies about it, before, and now I am incredibly curious. I wonder if I would lump myself and my religious views in with the people you mean when you say religion as a threat to the USA. My religious views in particular are directly contrasted with most of theirs, especially in the way they treat eachother. Above all else, my religious views demand that I question everything - especially itself - and to not pass judgement on that which I don't understand. Reason is the key to my understanding of the world and the things I believe make up the 'backstage' of our Grand Production. I came to my religion via philosophy and science (particularly the field of quantum mechanics, though do not mistake me as an expert of any kind in that way), and believe you will find me to be incredibly open to reasonable discourse specifically because of this fact. Christians who think the way I do seem to be an extreme minority in the world (which the bible did say we would be - I actually argue that it's a rather concise disproof of mainstream christianity and catholicism that so many practice it, but that is a religious debate and I'll set that aside for now.) I think the biggest point I'd like to make to you in particular is that I'm interested in joining Taggart to learn, both the game we play and the philosophy; the amazing brilliance and fascinating conversation between your members is a bonus to that.
This took me more time to write then I thought it would, haha. Apologies for any spelling or grammar errors I may have missed, I've spent the past little while hounding out the wordchoice mistake and now it is truly time to return to bed.
I will complete the application in the morning and have it to you shortly thereafter, Oleksandr. (I keep wanting to say 'Olekspar' and I'm not sure why. Perhaps it will be clearer in the morning.)
Petyr: No matter what Taggart becomes for me, I owe it all to you and that first great conversation of ours. I haven't undocked in two whole days because the channel is just so damn interesting. So thank you; and thank you also for your support, here.
Tolthy: No real interest in what people do with their own damn time or money or energy! It's the space (and the resources) I want access to, for me and mine. And there's something deeply satisfying to me about chucking a flag into a moon, calling out ownership, and defending the damn thing and your stations until the game actually recognizes you as the owner of it. I'm not sure if I even fully understand the implications or the effort required to pull this all off, especially over any length of time, but it is my long-term goal.
Kushan: I'm not a goon! not a goon not a goon not a goon. I don't even get their memes. I'd tell you where I like to hang out on the internet for "lulz," but the first rule is I'm not supposed to talk about it; and the second rule is I'm not supposed to talk about it. But anyway: I like to take shuttles on suicides and go harrass the goons - well, I've done it twice. But they're never really nice to me when I do it, which is kind of a bummer. Don't be scared of me, I'm mostly harmless.
Oleksandr: I'm totally new to Objectivism. I've only ever heard lies about it, before, and now I am incredibly curious. I wonder if I would lump myself and my religious views in with the people you mean when you say religion as a threat to the USA. My religious views in particular are directly contrasted with most of theirs, especially in the way they treat eachother. Above all else, my religious views demand that I question everything - especially itself - and to not pass judgement on that which I don't understand. Reason is the key to my understanding of the world and the things I believe make up the 'backstage' of our Grand Production. I came to my religion via philosophy and science (particularly the field of quantum mechanics, though do not mistake me as an expert of any kind in that way), and believe you will find me to be incredibly open to reasonable discourse specifically because of this fact. Christians who think the way I do seem to be an extreme minority in the world (which the bible did say we would be - I actually argue that it's a rather concise disproof of mainstream christianity and catholicism that so many practice it, but that is a religious debate and I'll set that aside for now.) I think the biggest point I'd like to make to you in particular is that I'm interested in joining Taggart to learn, both the game we play and the philosophy; the amazing brilliance and fascinating conversation between your members is a bonus to that.
This took me more time to write then I thought it would, haha. Apologies for any spelling or grammar errors I may have missed, I've spent the past little while hounding out the wordchoice mistake and now it is truly time to return to bed.
I will complete the application in the morning and have it to you shortly thereafter, Oleksandr. (I keep wanting to say 'Olekspar' and I'm not sure why. Perhaps it will be clearer in the morning.)
- Tolthar Lockbar
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Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
I think your modification of my name is meaner than I could over be . Could it at least be Tolmartie?Aryana Orinogu wrote:Tolthy: No real interest in what people do with their own damn time or money or energy! It's the space (and the resources) I want access to, for me and mine. And there's something deeply satisfying to me about chucking a flag into a moon, calling out ownership, and defending the damn thing and your stations until the game actually recognizes you as the owner of it. I'm not sure if I even fully understand the implications or the effort required to pull this all off, especially over any length of time, but it is my long-term goal.
I understand what you mean now Aryana about ownership, but why do you want to be in your won space with our own alliance/corp to do that? I plan to own alot, moons, stations, POSes, and I realize that my best (and only one I'd accept) would be to do it IN taggart. But I understand if you want to understand the game more first before going into this.
I think your long term goal is valiant though. It seems to be the same as mine (or similar). In Taggart, sticking a flag in a moon is basically putting a POS on an unclaimed moon, thats it.
I see other arguments of interest but it seems others (oleks) has already taken them up.
If Tolmart doesn't have it in stock, you get a free shuttle!
(Must be something with a BPO cost of less than 20 mil. One shuttle a day and per an item.)
- Petyr Baelich
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Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
I realize after reading Tolthy and Oleks responses that I would have had more to argue with if I did not already know you fairly well. Having already discussed these very same issues with you I didn't feel the need to bring them up again. Everyone in Taggart tends to be both introspective and extrospective in equal degree, (or at least that's the ideal) so if you make statements you haven't fully analyzed, be prepared for an argument . Be careful saying things you haven't fully thought out because people here will take you at your word, (as they rightly should) and operate on the assumption that you mean exactly what you say.
Have fun with the questionaire and good luck!
Have fun with the questionaire and good luck!
Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
It's not Olekspar, it's Tolthspar!
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We have a couple christians in here (Gin and Jyn) that are surprisingly rational despite this. I confess I don't see how christianity and objectivism are compatible... but some people manage to pull it off, so I suppose it's possible.
- Aryana Orinogu
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Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
Application completed!
Tolthy will spread through the ranks of Taggart like wildfire I've already made my first mark, bwahaha. I would say more, but I am starving. Applications seem to sap one's biological fuel quite rapidly!
Tolthy will spread through the ranks of Taggart like wildfire I've already made my first mark, bwahaha. I would say more, but I am starving. Applications seem to sap one's biological fuel quite rapidly!
- Petyr Baelich
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Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
I've been calling him tolthy for weeks now. Next time fit a MWD .Aryana Orinogu wrote:Application completed!
Tolthy will spread through the ranks of Taggart like wildfire I've already made my first mark, bwahaha. I would say more, but I am starving. Applications seem to sap one's biological fuel quite rapidly!
- Tolthar Lockbar
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Hate... you...
If Tolmart doesn't have it in stock, you get a free shuttle!
(Must be something with a BPO cost of less than 20 mil. One shuttle a day and per an item.)
- Aryana Orinogu
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Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
hahaha oh wow
you guys are the best. XD
you guys are the best. XD
- Ginuad Amarasen
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Holy crap! Another anon!
So, I heard you liek mudkips?
So, I heard you liek mudkips?
- Ginuad Amarasen
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Re: Arya Intro Extravaganza
ITTY BITTY BABY ITTY BITTY BOAT
- Petyr Baelich
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This is getting rather rediculous.
/me glares about through his librarian's glasses.
/me glares about through his librarian's glasses.
- Ginuad Amarasen
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There's method to the madness. Think of it as a form of handshaking.