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Hello, people! I'm posting this as I submit my application. I've been running "Mulligan Bank" for a while now, but frankly I don't have the ISK to make it a venture profitable enough to continue, so I'm trying to join up with some other more experienced folks. Ayn Rand inspired me to start my own business IRL, and I hope someday to mirror that effectively in EVE. Till then I'm gonna just fly my barge!

Welcome to the forums Midas...

You are in good company, JD Rockefeller started with a business similar to a vegetable pushcart. I think he diversified into the grease used for the wheels though.

I am into gardening too. I am just getting ready to do the candling / pruning on my 20 foot black pine – a 40 hour project. Yeah I know I should do the pruning earlier than candling, but it is such a big job on a full sized tree.

Thanks for the interest. Good luck in the application process.

Musashi, you're performing niwaki on a 20 foot black pine? Your crazy. ... but in a good way.

I'm just thinking of Musashi in gardening cloths and gardening gloves, carefully picking flowers....

Tolthar Lockbar wrote:I'm just thinking of Musashi in gardening cloths and gardening gloves, carefully picking flowers....

This.

Tolthar Lockbar wrote:I'm just thinking of Musashi in gardening cloths and gardening gloves, carefully picking flowers....

And during our RL visit you thought I was appreciating those dog wood trees just for their blooms!

Yeah I put myself thought college working at a nursery for about 7 years, and about 5 years as a gardener. I didn’t really get into working with trees until after I became a gardening hobbyist. Actually gardening and martial arts go together nicely. Many of the martial arts weapons were actually farming implements. Quite a few of my Judo buddies also work in the industry.

Actually gardening and martial arts go together nicely.

Didn't some forms of Karate use trees with a certain type of bark to punch in order to build calluses?

Tolthar Lockbar wrote:

Actually gardening and martial arts go together nicely.

Didn't some forms of Karate use trees with a certain type of bark to punch in order to build calluses?

Not forms so much as training aids. Gogen Yamaguchi the guy that founded the style of Karate I practiced (Goju Ryu) used to engage in some unusual routines. Annually he took a summer retreat for a few weeks. Each year he would single out a tree and use it as his punching post. He would try to knock off all the bark and crush the cambium layer of the tree all the way around the circumference – essentially girdling the tree and killing it. He did some other wild stuff like meditating while sitting under an ice-cold water fall, and later in a pyramid-type contraption.

I’ve tried it. The bark really tears up your hands. Plus a few Karate guys like Yamaguchi have broken the bones in their hand to re-model the first two knuckles into a flat plain. This helps for hitting hard surfaces like trees and skulls. I’ve not remodeled my fist. I try to avoid actually punching hard surfaces. There are better types of strikes than a punch to use on hard surfaces, like open handed strikes. That is a bit beyond calluses...

Tolthar Lockbar wrote:

Actually gardening and martial arts go together nicely.

Didn't some forms of Karate use trees with a certain type of bark to punch in order to build calluses?

Real men use cactus.

Remodeling bones sounds a bit zealous for me... Why would you want to hit hard surfaces anyways? Humans are soft Unless you are fighting a medieval knight)) But then grappling comes.

heads are very hard.

Borysoff wrote:Remodeling bones sounds a bit zealous for me... Why would you want to hit hard surfaces anyways?

I thought so too. They were teaching me how to fight, I figured they should be able to teach me how to keep safe from damage too.

Plus the broken hands have other issues like early on set arthritis, once that sets in you’re not punching anything. And then there is the unfettered ability to type and write. It just never made much sense to me.

Assuming the Discovery Channel has not lied to me, the thing about punching trees/etc. is that each blow actually causes micro-fractures, which are then healed by the body; the healing process results in a denser section of bone. Do it enough and you actually increase the overall density (and strength) of the carpal bones in your hand. The same process happens when you walk and run, which is why people who are bed ridden (or in space) lose bone density. (Basically, the body makes bone at a high density, and then carves away at it until it breaks, then patches it, carves, etc. ad infinitum. This is happening constantly, and is how bones repair themselves without becoming solid blocks of calcium phosphate. When the carving process doesn't happen, the bones solidify and bad things occur, like death...)

Hit the jaw, then head is not hard))
About microfractions of the bones to increase density i'm not sure. This works for muscles definitely. What i do for hands is basically pushups on the fists from some hard surface. 3 monthes of this, and you have enough density. Hits actually do more damage imo.

Toawa wrote:The thing about punching trees/etc. is that each blow actually causes micro-fractures, which are then healed by the body.

I think bone density does increase yes. And also the scaring destroys sensitivity so it doesn’t hurt as much when you hit. Here is a nice picture of Mas Oyama’s fists. They look pretty flat, not much of a bump where the knuckles should be. Of course Oyama is renowned for killing bulls with his bare hands (on film). His shuto strikes removed the horns. In a few cases the meat was a bloody pulp when he was done, and they declared the meat unfit for human consumption. Crazy stuff.