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Saying Hello!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:28 pm
by Torazelan
I'm fairly new to Eve, happened across this corp in the recruitment channel and it looked like a good fit for me.

If you happen to bother to read this, I'd like to pose a question to you.

You're part of a medieval line of infantry with pikes standing against a charging line of heavy cavalry. If you all stand and hold the line against the cavalry you'll likely break the charge. If some of the infantry flee the line will likely break and you'll be killed.

What is the rational thing for you to do?

Re: Saying Hello!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:02 pm
by redhotrebel
Torazelan wrote:I'm fairly new to Eve, happened across this corp in the recruitment channel and it looked like a good fit for me.

If you happen to bother to read this, I'd like to pose a question to you.

You're part of a medieval line of infantry with pikes standing against a charging line of heavy cavalry. If you all stand and hold the line against the cavalry you'll likely break the charge. If some of the infantry flee the line will likely break and you'll be killed.

What is the rational thing for you to do?
Welcome to the forums and as far as your question goes you're leaving out an important part of the whatif game- what are "we" standing for? This drastically changes the answer. Although, I still probably wouldn't answer because "whatif" questions tend to become moving goal post fallacies or false dichotomies. And there's no prize for playing ;)

Re: Saying Hello!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:50 pm
by Torazelan
redhotrebel wrote: Welcome to the forums and as far as your question goes you're leaving out an important part of the whatif game- what are "we" standing for? This drastically changes the answer. Although, I still probably wouldn't answer because "whatif" questions tend to become moving goal post fallacies or false dichotomies. And there's no prize for playing ;)
Ohhh details... fine :) Let's say you're standing in front of a gold bar weighing 132.38 kilograms.

And let's add in...
Case 1:
You're in the line with a bunch of people randomly picked from the village
Case 2:
You're in the line with members of your corporation


If you need more details than that.. well.. I'll not hold it against you if you don't feel like answering.

Do try to keep your responses brief though, I'd hate to go over that 1 page mark ;)

Re: Saying Hello!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:00 pm
by redhotrebel
Torazelan wrote:Ohhh details... fine :) Let's say you're standing in front of a gold bar weighing 132.38 kilograms.
Who does the gold belong to?

Re: Saying Hello!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:16 pm
by musashi
Torazelan wrote:You're part of a medieval line of infantry with pikes standing against a charging line of heavy cavalry. If you all stand and hold the line against the cavalry you'll likely break the charge. If some of the infantry flee the line will likely break and you'll be killed.
Well you are already in line aren't you? Ideally you’d like to consider & answer this question before you get in the line… :roll:

Once you are there, I’d say trust in your own pike. Your survival (in the initial charge at least) is more dependant on you taking out that horse in front of you, than on the entire line holding.

And as far as cutting & running, I think you have better odds standing your ground with fixed weapons than attempting to out run a horse.

Re: Saying Hello!

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:39 am
by Torrstar
I'm standing on the hill with the officers watching the battle from a distance.....

Re: Saying Hello!

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:13 am
by Kushan
I would run, then be run down by the horsemen and killed, and/or tried for treason and hanged.

Re: Saying Hello!

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:25 pm
by Xul Daethreen
See, this is all very simple. I wait for Kushan to run, then stab him in the leg. I toss the dagger aside, claim we have a traitor, point to a random person I do not know/like, and then carry Kushan away from the battlefield claiming to be staunching the blood flow of a lethal wound. Say a few inspirational words on the way out, of course. Besides, until the cavalry crush the pike regiment, they won't worry about stragglers immediately. Important target vs. momentary non-combatant. I'll be safely in the trees by the time the mounted soldiers start looking for individuals.

Welcome to the forums, good luck on the application.

Re: Saying Hello!

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:41 pm
by redhotrebel
Xul Daethreen wrote:See, this is all very simple. I wait for Kushan to run, then stab him in the leg. I toss the dagger aside, claim we have a traitor, point to a random person I do not know/like, and then carry Kushan away from the battlefield claiming to be staunching the blood flow of a lethal wound. Say a few inspirational words on the way out, of course. Besides, until the cavalry crush the pike regiment, they won't worry about stragglers immediately. Important target vs. momentary non-combatant. I'll be safely in the trees by the time the mounted soldiers start looking for individuals.

Welcome to the forums, good luck on the application.
There's a flaw here- the only way for two people to keep a secret is if one of them is dead- you're going to have to finish Kushan off just in case your side wins. Sorry Kush, you're gonna get killed after getting stabbed in the leg by the new guy, that sucks :( .

Re: Saying Hello!

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:44 am
by Xul Daethreen
Leverage. Kushan was going to run anyways, I just gave him a way out without having to get run down/killed for treason/cowardice. Attempting to betray me would most likely end badly for him as well. Plus, I think he'd rather have that nice acceptable stabbed by a traitor excuse than being hanged for running from battle.