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Where Tiger Woods’ actions immoral?
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:31 pm
by musashi
By DOUG FERGUSON, AP Golf Writer Doug Ferguson, Ap Golf Writer wrote:
TIGER WOODS: SORRY FOR BEHAVIOR, UNSURE OF RETURN
PONTE VEDRA BEACH, Fla. – Tiger Woods apologized Friday for cheating on his wife and says he is unsure when he will return to competitive golf.
"I was unfaithful. I had affairs. I cheated. What I did was not acceptable," said Woods, looking composed and speaking in a steady voice. His wife, Elin, was not with him.
As for coming back to the PGA Tour, the planet's best golfer said: "I do plan to return to golf one day. I just don't know when that day will be. I don't rule out it will be this year."
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Admitting he felt he "deserved to enjoy the temptations" that came with his fabulous success, Woods said he is solely responsible for his actions. "I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior," Woods said.
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Ernie Els was among players who were upset to learn that Woods had chosen the week of a World Golf Championship for a public appearance that was sure to take attention away from the tournament. "It's selfish," Els told Golfweek magazine.
Former champion Nick Faldo, whose own personal life has been subject to media scrutiny over the years, watched Woods and told the Golf Channel: "It has left a big question mark: When is he going to return? We have had the apology but as golfers we are back at square one."
Woods' appearance drew reaction from all corners.
From the Olympics, American Alpine skier Julia Mancuso posted on Twitter: "do we think this is coming from the heart or the paper! come on Tiger! give us some reality here."
Re: Where Tiger Woods’ actions immoral?
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:15 am
by Kushan
not that I particularly care much, but at the very least it's dishonesty. His wife married him with the understand he would be faithful. He wasn't. End of story really
Re: Where Tiger Woods’ actions immoral?
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:02 pm
by Zarkary
"You may select up to 5 options"
I think your pole could suffer from some statistical inaccurracies!
I agree with Kush, though. I don't really care and he basically lied to his wife. Didn't he go into rehab? 0.o
Re: Where Tiger Woods’ actions immoral?
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:47 pm
by redhotrebel
Definitely not. And although we assume he lied to his wife, I don't know the intricacies of their marriage. Maybe it was agreed upon that his behavior was okay and then she changed her mind about it. Also entering into an agreement of that magnitude (marriage) is dishonest in general or at the very least naive.
Was there a better way to break that "contract"?- absolutely. Is it surprising?- not in the least. People in general are so consumed by their hormones and this idea of what society expects that they never actually figure out (think) what they want in a partner or spouse, what the expectations are in that relationship, what caveats there will be in that relationship etc... etc...
The entire emotional appeal and downright blackmail of his public apology is disgusting and disturbing. It’s very reminisce of Henry Rearden IMO.
Re: Where Tiger Woods’ actions immoral?
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:09 pm
by Raaz Satik
Kushan wrote:not that I particularly care much, but at the very least it's dishonesty. His wife married him with the understand he would be faithful. He wasn't. End of story really
Agree
redhotrebel wrote:Also entering into an agreement of that magnitude (marriage) is dishonest in general or at the very least naive.
I guess your not married.
Re: Where Tiger Woods’ actions immoral?
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:10 pm
by redhotrebel
Raaz Satik wrote:redhotrebel wrote:Also entering into an agreement of that magnitude (marriage) is dishonest in general or at the very least naive.
I guess you're not married.
I really don't want to obfuscate from the point but I would like to clarify: I don't think it's done intentionally nor does it apply to everyone.
I think that some people who are generally non-monogamous want to be for some reason (society, family pressure, whatever) So they enter into agreements or commitments that they
feel they should be able to uphold and because they initially lied to themselves or their spouse were unable to keep those promises. Whereas a better alternative would be to
think about their actions and desires, be open with their potential spouse and find someone that shares their values of an open relationship.
Once again, this applies to people who are non-monogamous not to those who are.
*SIDE NOTE: I do hold issues with the traditional vows of "...to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health..." as it promotes "unconditional" love, but that's a whole different topic
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Re: Where Tiger Woods’ actions immoral?
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:40 pm
by musashi
redhotrebel wrote: And although we assume he lied to his wife, I don't know the intricacies of their marriage. Maybe it was agreed upon that his behavior was okay and then she changed her mind about it.
I’ve been trying to imagine a circumstance where the wife would be OK with adultery private and then the wife becomes “Not OK” with it once the adultery gets into the media. To me these types of circumstances seem disingenuous on the wife’s part.
This situation does bring up an interesting point that Ayn Rand explored in the novels. Her heroic characters could be trusted to keep their word in most circumstances, and yet many of them had infidelities.
Is it OK to cheat on the people closest to us, but not OK to cheat your business partners?
I liked Ernie Els… not only was Tiger’s infidelity selfish, but his timing to make a statement during the week of the World Golf Championship was selfish too. It reminded me of an
episode of South Park where Randy Marsh was effectively driven to kissing Jesse Jackson’s ass in an attempt to apologize to all black people in the entire world. Somehow Tiger is supposed to ask Ernie and every other golfer, golf sponsor, golf pundit and golf fan for permission to apologize? And Ernie Els is their self-appointed king. Too funny Ernie, keep ‘em coming.