Tim Bardon (Precog Lemuers) Intro

[precog29]

Basic Info:

EVE character - Precog Lemuer
Your preferred nick/name - Precog
TTI Division (or major occupation if unsure) - mining, production, missions, trading.
Email Address - timbardon@gmail.com
Your (approximate) age - 24
Timezone in the world - EST

Extended Info:

1) What are your unique characteristics that set you apart from most people? (your views, achievements, etc):
In 2001 I challenged all of my beliefs and rewrote my brain from the standard programming of parents, school, media, and government. I see the universe without the veil hindering my view and understand reality itself, from the infinite source all the way up and down through the cycle's of hierarchy. I came to the conclusion that time is an illusion by my own pondering and reason. We currently reside in the continuous creation moment which is now. Change is the only constant. From material to metaphysical, energy changes based on mathematics. The paradox which is infinity can be comprehended by the human mind. I have comprehended it, and understand the balance.
2) Why are you playing EVE?
I like eve because of it's capitalism and "perma-death."
3) Why are you applying to Taggart?
I want to challenge and better myself ingame and out of game, and thinking in that philosophical mindset both ingame and out of game will produce value and experience which in turn changes to wisdom.

[whisperii]

Could you possibly elaborate on "time is an illusion"?

[precog29]

Time is relative to mass and gravity, for human beings on earth it "exists" because we see matter change. But if there were no mass or matter or gravitational force affecting the relative "area" then time becomes an illusion and you understand something that's "outside the box."

We calculate time based on the distance or change between two "things"

This moment when I typed the word moment is the exact same moment that I typed every letter in this sentence. It's the belief that we are living in the continuous creation moment which is called now or "present."

[Petyr Baelich]

Time is relative to mass and gravity, for human beings on earth it "exists" because we see matter change. But if there were no mass or matter or gravitational force affecting the relative "area" then time becomes an illusion and you understand something that's "outside the box."

If reality did not exist then neither would time.... sure. Agree. But it does, and so does time.

We calculate time based on the distance or change between two "things"

This moment when I typed the word moment is the exact same moment that I typed every letter in this sentence. It's the belief that we are living in the continuous creation moment which is called now or "present."

I don't see how this proves that time is an illusion, just the opposite, infact.

[whisperii]

Time is relative to mass and gravity, for human beings on earth it "exists" because we see matter change. But if there were no mass or matter or gravitational force affecting the relative "area" then time becomes an illusion and you understand something that's "outside the box."

We calculate time based on the distance or change between two "things"

This moment when I typed the word moment is the exact same moment that I typed every letter in this sentence. It's the belief that we are living in the continuous creation moment which is called now or "present."

I can appreciate the theory behind that, but there is mass and gravity, so therefore it's not an illusion. Or am I still misunderstanding. Also it seems as though (and again, I could just be misunderstanding you) your argument is for 2 seperate things. One is the perception of time relative to mass and gravity whereas the other is the actual state of time as it is relative to.... reality.

[precog29]

When dealing with quantum physics/mechanics there are discoveries such as an atom existing in two places at one moment of time. There is also an experiment where light has been trapped in a tube. Another experiment is where light shined backwards into time before the source of the light emitted the light itself.

I'll try to explain more. If you take the last post and compare it to this post, we can't count how long it's been between the two posts. Because we have a decimal in our math. And after that decimal we can go on infinitely, much like how Pi is an infinite incalculable variable. In the essence of what I'm saying our reality is not what it seems. Time is a measurement, and because we cannot define the exact moment with math, our logic comes to the conclusion that we are living in an infinite now or "present." It's an everchanging moment. The future is undefined because the everchanging moment is technically an anomaly to where anything is possible.

[Petyr Baelich]

When dealing with quantum physics/mechanics there are discoveries such as an atom existing in two places at one moment of time. There is also an experiment where light has been trapped in a tube. Another experiment is where light shined backwards into time before the source of the light emitted the light itself.

I'll try to explain more. If you take the last post and compare it to this post, we can't count how long it's been between the two posts. Because we have a decimal in our math. And after that decimal we can go on infinitely, much like how Pi is an infinite incalculable variable. In the essence of what I'm saying our reality is not what it seems. Time is a measurement, and because we cannot define the exact moment with math, our logic comes to the conclusion that we are living in an infinite now or "present." It's an everchanging moment. The future is undefined because the everchanging moment is technically an anomaly to where anything is possible.

Bull. Planck Space, Planck Time. Indivisible units of reality. Heisenburg uncertainty or no, (and that theory is horribly misunderstood and misused) that subatomic particle (and it's not an atom, btw, atoms follow Newtonian physics, it's only subatomics that one uses quantum mechanics to describe) DOES occupy one point in space, it's just not possible, (currently) to observe both its position and velocity at the same time. The other "experiments" you cite were theoretical extrapolations of this theory. Superunification WILL happen. Knowledge IS possible.

[precog29]

Thank you for your feedback, it is valuable to me, and enables me to better grasp things. I will always be digesting new information and re-evaluating my understanding and beliefs of reality.

What do you think will happen when CERN becomes operational this may?

[Kushan]

I'm mildly curious to know what the "practical" application for your view on time is. Aside from the fact that I don't buy it in the least, what exactly is the whole point? You perceive time; you need to act on time as you perceive it.

[precog29]

It's just a theororetical idea. No practical application that I can think of.

[Afndayle]

Your argument on time is horribly flawed. Time is a dimension, in the same sense that left, forward, and up comprise a three dimensional world. Time is a fourth dimension. To say it doesn't exist would be similar to stating that left doesn't exist. In what way could left not exist? Only in a two dimensional world that was oriented so only forward and up existed. Of course, we'll ignore the obvious response that orientation is completely relative. Think of it this way. You quote an atom being in two places at once. If you were to draw a line between those two atoms, and then base a three dimensional space off of that line, then you could similarly say that that disproves that left exists. But wait, that's silly.

Additionally, I find this interesting:

If you take the last post and compare it to this post, we can't count how long it's been between the two posts. Because we have a decimal in our math. And after that decimal we can go on infinitely, much like how Pi is an infinite incalculable variable. In the essence of what I'm saying our reality is not what it seems.

As a matter of fact, I can locate pi in an extremely precise manner on the real number line. All I need to use are dedekind cuts. Dedekind cuts are sets of rational numbers that consist of all rational numbers greater than a given real number, and all rational numbers less than a given real number. In the same way, I can locate 'now' in a very precise way. I can take the set of all moments that have yet to come, and all moments that have already come, and I know that 'now' is the moment that's right between those two. Of course you're correct in stating that this moment is constantly changing, but it's the very same as saying that the ability to walk in a line means that that direction doesn't exist. Of course it exists, you are walking along it.

[Petyr Baelich]

As a matter of fact, I can locate pi in an extremely precise manner on the real number line. All I need to use are dedekind cuts. Dedekind cuts are sets of rational numbers that consist of all rational numbers greater than a given real number, and all rational numbers less than a given real number. In the same way, I can locate 'now' in a very precise way. I can take the set of all moments that have yet to come, and all moments that have already come, and I know that 'now' is the moment that's right between those two. Of course you're correct in stating that this moment is constantly changing, but it's the very same as saying that the ability to walk in a line means that that direction doesn't exist. Of course it exists, you are walking along it.

Exactly.

[Aryana Orinogu]

Of course you're correct in stating that this moment is constantly changing, but it's the very same as saying that the ability to walk in a line means that that direction doesn't exist. Of course it exists, you are walking along it.

Petyr beat me to it, but I just can't help myself. Writing this one down.

[precog29]

I thought it might be flawed. There is always new things to learn, redefine and create.

What will change if the grand unified theory is "complete" or "true" because of the proof of existence of the Higgs Boson?

[whisperii]

I thought it might be flawed. There is always new things to learn, redefine and create.

What will change if the grand unified theory is "complete" or "true" because of the proof of existence of the Higgs Boson?

Pardon me Precog, but there are a few things that I'm not understanding. For one, do you think that you should be having this conversation as part of your introduction? Also, do you realize that your arguments to this point are, to be blunt, specious? Finally, if the answer to the last question is yes, did you bother reading the principles of which VOS/TTI is founded? If the answer is no.... well the same question.

To TTI members, if I'm out of line here, I apologize. To those who are trying to come aboard, don't mind me, I only do this to people who think they know more than they do. There's nothing wrong with not knowing something, and certainly nothing wrong with being wrong, but not wanting to learn is an egregious sin against life that I for one cannot tolerate.

[precog29]

I'm sorry if they seem or are specious. I'm still trying to figure a lot of things out because there is so much to learn. My intentions are good, I like the truth even if it's ugly.

I don't know if I should be having a debate on science since you brought up the idea that it might be wrong to be partaking in that activity.

I read the philosophy and was very satisfied after reading it. It gave me a new perspective about how I should live my life. In the past I've fallen victim to letting people borrow money and never getting it back. I've been the victim of "love of another person" and made many mistakes and created hardships on myself.

Recently I've cared more about me rather than anyone else and am enjoying life.

I re-read what I wrote and it does seem to be a false preaching, which I apologize for. I love learning new information and redefining old knowledge. I like self improvement. I know that I know very little and If I had the money to pay for the learning of what I'm interested in, I don't think I could afford it.

[whisperii]

I'm sorry if they seem or are specious. I'm still trying to figure a lot of things out because there is so much to learn. My intentions are good, I like the truth even if it's ugly.

I don't know if I should be having a debate on science since you brought up the idea that it might be wrong to be partaking in that activity.

I read the philosophy and was very satisfied after reading it. It gave me a new perspective about how I should live my life. In the past I've fallen victim to letting people borrow money and never getting it back. I've been the victim of "love of another person" and made many mistakes and created hardships on myself.

Recently I've cared more about me rather than anyone else and am enjoying life.

I re-read what I wrote and it does seem to be a false preaching, which I apologize for. I love learning new information and redefining old knowledge. I like self improvement. I know that I know very little and If I had the money to pay for the learning of what I'm interested in, I don't think I could afford it.

Fair enough. However, as far as philosophy is concerned (my initial objection was philosophical, not scientific) most libraries will either have objectivist literature or can get it - all at no cost.

I suggest starting with all the Rand/Peikoff/Kelley that you can get your hands on. There is no particular order between Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, but I suggest reading those 2 before starting on the other more philosophy specific books.

So, here's a short list off the top of my head that doesn't make me stand up:

Virtue Of Selfishness (VOS)
The Romantic Manifesto
Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand (OPAR) <---ok, this is the hardest book I've ever read, so don't be discouraged if you think so too. Conversely, if you think it's easy, do you tutor?
Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal

[precog29]

Thank you, I will investigate and digest.

[Kushan]

I don't think going off on debates like this is a bad thing to do in an application post. It lets everyone see who you are and how you think. Although I wasn't impressed by your original hypothesis, you've got my respect for being obviously intelligent, rational, and not afraid to challenge your current beliefs. Anyone willing to change their mind is a rarity...

[Velocima Geminosa]

Not to unnecessarily tarnish this intro with yet more science (feel free to edit this post mods if you think it shouldn't be here, and I can post it in its own place).
Seeing this talk of physics has intrigued me, and I wanted to clarify for those interested what the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle actually says (as well as share with you some of what I have learned about quantum mechanics).

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle says that the product of the variation in position and the variation in momentum is greater than or equal to h-bar/2. This essentially says that the less variation you have in your knowledge of position, the more variation you have in the knowledge of momentum. This affects everything within our universe, no matter how large or small. However, once one goes beyond the size of nucleons (the particles in the nucleus, electrons and other elementary particles generally being smaller), the effects of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle become so small that they are lost in the rounding off of decimal places (if I only want the results accurate to within four decimal places, any variation due to the Uncertainty Principle quickly becomes insignificant).

Essentially, the key thing to remember is that while the Uncertainty Principle affects everything, it only significantly affects the extremely tiny (generally nucleons and smaller).

If anyone ever wishes to discuss more about the Uncertainty Principle or any other physics-related subjects, feel free to talk with me in-game or make posts on the boards.

[Tolthar Lockbar]

I don't think going off on debates like this is a bad thing to do in an application post. It lets everyone see who you are and how you think. Although I wasn't impressed by your original hypothesis, you've got my respect for being obviously intelligent, rational, and not afraid to challenge your current beliefs. Anyone willing to change their mind is a rarity...

Rule of Tolmart 1: Turn discussions into something more fun when possible.

[Ginuad Amarasen]

Second rule, do NOT talk about Tolmart!

[precog29]

I didn't get accepted into Taggart Transdimensional but that's no reason not to have witty and fun conversations with you guys and gals.

What really interests me right now is CERN and the possible discovery of the Higgs Boson particle.


On a side note, my good friend that I haven't talked to in awhile got me into a corp in the Bruce Alliance. Even though I don't know the full extent of it's business or power, I'm happy that I can just kill rats in 0.0 and make enough isk to trade in for a GTC and essentially play for free.

But what really interests me is Taggart and the members. You guys are like Mensa for EVE.

[Oleksandr]

What really interests me right now is CERN and the possible discovery of the Higgs Boson particle.

A birthday of next crazy quantum mechanics theory?

I'll pass; it has nothing to do with reality.

[Borysoff]

Most of current sciences were first born as theorys, not having practical application.
Why are you so sceptic about quantum mechanics Olek?